Question:
What exactly is a "cam pulse generator", and what does it do for my motorcycle?
Mantis Toboggan
2009-12-02 08:17:48 UTC
A little while back I had to take my CBR1000rr to the dealership a few times because it had been stalling randomly during my rides. They finally found out that the issue was a faulty "cam pulse generator". What is this, what does it do, and why would a faulty one cause my bike to stall?
Five answers:
guardrailjim
2009-12-02 09:50:46 UTC
Honda used to call the "cam pulse generator", the "camshaft sensor'.

Camshaft sensor - it senses when the camshaft is at a particular position.

Cam Pulse Generator - it generates an electrical pulse and sends it to the ECU.



An electrical pulse is generated, when the camshaft is at a predetermined position.

It acts like a set of points and tells the ECU (computer) when to fire the spark plugs.



When the cam pulse generator is faulty, the ECU will not tell the coils it's time to fire the spark plugs - resulting in no spark and engine stalling.



Older motorcycles and automobiles that have points, have a "cam" (a shaft with a lobe) that spins in time with the engine.

When it's time to fire the spark plugs, the lobe (rubbing block) opens the points, which causes the coil to fire the spark plugs.



When engines advanced to electronic ignition and did away with using points, the "pulse generator" would get it's signal from the crankshaft.



Advancing to higher performance engines, the pulse generator was moved to get it's signal from the camshaft - more accurate timing to compensate for cam chain stretching and bearing ware.



Some Honda CBR1000RR have faulty CPGs. Honda has determined there are not enough complaints to issue a parts recall at this time.
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2017-01-13 20:24:42 UTC
Pulse Cam
Deeds
2009-12-02 08:22:32 UTC
My car coded with intermittant pulse generator exhaust side fault. I figure I'll do a pre-emptive strike and knock off the intake side while I'm in there. Not an unexpected fault at 60K. It's not a hard job so I went to my ETK for the intake and exhaust pulse generator (Cam Position Sensors) and I got these numbers:



12141438081

12141438082



I drive down to the dealer and his system doesn't recognize the numbers. He sells me these numbers:



12147518628

12147539165



They fit, the car doesn't code and feels great. Luckily we have had a spate of cool weather, so I didn't melt doing the work.



I plug the dealer's part numbers into my ETK and get a message that the numbers can't be found or are not installed on my car.



My ETK is CD Version 01/2004-Version Group ETK 1.1.0 of 20 Nov 2003. Can someone explain why the difference in the part numbers? I doubt there's a difference between the ETK used in Mexico and the US. Mexico orders parts out of Germany, but I don't think that has anything to do with anything. Could there have been a parts revision after November 2003 for a May 2000 production vehicle?





2000 528 Sport

Billsteins

Brembos

SS Lines

BMWCCA 157733
Bob A
2009-12-02 09:23:42 UTC
It's the trigger for your tachometer as you have an electronic tach.It sends a pulse which is counted by the ECU to move it.

By the way your spark is controlled by the crank angel sensor commonly called the ignition trigger.
robert d
2009-12-02 08:24:08 UTC
it generates the power for your spark plugs and if it is faulty you have no spark and the bike wont run


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