Question:
What company makes the stongest drive chain ( 530) that is to say the least prone to stretching?
anonymous
2007-07-14 08:39:03 UTC
I've got a 91 FXR with a 121" motor. I converted from belt to chain last fall and at less than 4,000 mi. on the chain it has already reached the point that it needs frequent adjustment.
What do you hear about O-ring vs. standard chains in regard to life span? I've heard O-ring chains don't last as long?
Six answers:
anonymous
2007-07-14 17:58:54 UTC
Right now,,

EK 530ZZZ is strongest 530

DID 50ZVM-2 is longest wearing





Best thing you can do to increase chain life is to use largest front sprocket available.

24 or maybe 25, I guess???

"best thing you can do" is not purely a figure of speech.



If you've worn out a chain that quick,,it was probably less-than premium chain.



You very possibly will need to replace sprocket set also.

If you do ,,,get largest front sprocket you can find and calculate the ratio you have now to determine rear tooth count.

It makes a remarkable difference in chain life,,,even just a couple of extra teeth up front do.

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O-ring vs Non-O-ring,,,depends of who's telling the tale.



O-ring chains are "wettable" but not easily Lubeable.

Non-Oring chains are easy to lube,,and there's plenty of exotic lubes you can buy or make.



But each time a Non-Oring runs low on lube,,,it's nearly all been for nothing.

NOT as dramatic as running an engine without oil,,,but exact same principle.

Doesn't matter How well maintained,,or what quality of oil---1st time ya run w/o oil,,engine is toast.

Chain is not as Fragile,,but just as Sensitive.



So the O-ring Chains are much,much more forgiving in that respect.

They can run "Dry" yet still retain their lube in the most critical area--Roller-to-Pin contact.



Probably the MOST compelling fact in favour of O-Ring chains is that nobody I know of makes a "Premium" Non-O-ring chain for "street use" .



All the Highest Quality,Strongest,Highest Tech,Longest Life,,,and biggest line of BS blahblahblah goes into the O-ring Models.



Chain life is VERY subjective,,,the variables in actual field service are such an extreme range it's really impossible to state a life expectancy.



But the MFGR's TRY to rate Chain Life expectancy on Relative Terms compared to "Standard Chain"



Not unusual to see O-Rings rated at High Multiples vs standard chain...5X std~10X std or more.

We gotta assume it Does indicate something useful to know,,,but also that it's an exageration.

I never seen Any chain outlast any Decent chain 5~10X.



Sometimes I think that more closely translates into

"Standard Chain Wont last 2 Month/ 2000 miles" type of statement.

Standard chain gets beat up quick & badly on a big bike.

So Life Expectancy Comparisons are maybe more of a comment on how BAD "junk" chain is,,

rather than How GOOD Premium chain is.



Ol' Reliable,,,Standard Diamond Chain is Non O-ring,,rated at about 2X Std chain life.

With Very Diligent Care & Feeding,,,it's not unusual to see them going 3~4~5 X the mileage of some of the junkier OEM Chains.

And even with almost NO care,,,they WILL do at least Twice the Mileage of an OEM type "standard chain".

Old School as they are,,,it's STILL absolutely a Premium Chain.



Personally I'd use Diamond chain without a second thought.

They decay VERY slowly,,,and are near impossible to break.

They're strong,stable chains.



But they get to be a nasty nuisance on street bikes keeping them maintained.

That's the only "con" I know of to Diamond's plain chains

And I've runs Miles of it.

Not Roads,,,the Chain itself.



Nevertheless,,,for Modern Tech,,"latest greatest",least trouble & best life expectancy,,,



I'd have to say it's EK's ZZZ series.



One other thing,,,

Aluminum Rear Sprocket "CAN" improve chain life.

For anyone who keeps chain adjusted,lubed a little,,,and replaces it before it's just flat wore out,,,

Almost Any aluminum sprocket WILL yield better chain life.







http://www.ekchain.com/images/EKcatalog.pdf

http://www.didchain.com/specs.htm



http://www.sprocketspecialists.com/



http://www.rebelgears.com/



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I did not mention a upgrade to 630,for a few reasons.

Mostly because the Premium 530's outperform it in every aspect.

Only when comparing standard chain does 630 beat 530.

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'Spose it's worth mentioning "Economy".

All the Upscale Chains are expensive.

And at some point the Real-World differences probably begins splitting hairs.

They're All Good,in otherwords.



Some get STOOPID Expensive.

2 or 3 times what a Very Good chain costs.



2 or 3 NEW,,"very good chains" probaly could take you further down the road than 1 "BEST available" Hi-Dollar chain.



Chains ARE "expendables",,,normal wear & tear items which are expected to be disposable,,,same as spark plugs & oil filters.



"Ultra Premium" is always nice,,

But there's also much to be said for LESSER,,,but FRESHER parts.



3- $50~70 standard Diamonds would go farther than any single $175~200+ premium chain.

Or a couple of $100 Diamond XLO's--their Oring chains.



I 'bleive that's true,,,but I also realize that dont narrow down the choices or lessen any confusion,,lol.



It IS a different angle to consider though.

Hi quality,dependable chain with a shorter life & more frequent replacement VS the Hi Dollar chains.

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Just for example,,,I saw this on Ebay.

If it was MY bike,,,(and sprockets were still "too good" to throw away as Should be done when fitting any Mega Buck chain),,,,

This is a Standard Diamond for about $63 shipped.

These are High Quality stuff---at one time these were "best chain available".

Economical way to finish off remaining sprocket life & still have a solid,reliable chain.

This particular one happens to be a bit long,,which is no prob.



No recommendation to DO that,,,just another angle to consider.



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/530-X-120-DIAMOND-DRIVE-CHAIN_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35557QQihZ001QQitemZ110141642872QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V



You might want to shop around Locally for anyone who has Bulk Diamond Chain,,,it's usually lots less expensive.



Good Luck with whichever way Ya go.
ducatisti
2007-07-14 12:16:44 UTC
You usually get what you pay for with chain, but sometimes even the best quality chain is affected by other factors.



O-ring and X-ring chains will always outlast regular chain. The only downside to o-ring is on smaller bikes the added drag can reduce power - that's not an issue with your setup!



DID, RK, Tsubaki, and others all make good chains (many actually come from the same manufacturer - Camellia). Check the catalog descriptions for recommended useage of each particular model of chain, some are designed for racing (great load hit resistance, but short lifespan), others for long-distance riders with engines that create lots of torque (more what you're looking for).



Also, check the sprockets - worn or misaligned sprockets will wear out a chain really quickly. The front sprocket is easy to overlook, and will usually wear the fastest.



If you've got a really worn chain, then defintely replace the sprockets when you do the chain - even if they don't look worn. If you don't, the new chain will not match perfectly with the worn-in sprockets, and start wearing out again - too quickly!



Also, even with an o-ring chain, you'll still have to wax it (oil is okay, but flings off and gets messy) to keep it healthy. We always treat our chains after a long weekend ride - or any time we've been riding in wet conditions. It takes all of a few minutes, and is worth the added time we get out of a chain.
truitt
2016-12-28 10:18:24 UTC
Ek 530 Chain
Who Dat ?
2007-07-14 09:52:56 UTC
o ring chains last longer but with the torque a 121 puts out 6kto10k would be about max for a 530. I like diamond brand
anonymous
2007-07-14 08:45:13 UTC
I have found you get what you pay for when it comes to chains



myself i use tsubaki chains i have a vz800 and got one of their chains rated for a 1600cc application... so with that and new sprokets i have only adjusted my chain 4 times in 2 years ( this is not taking into account anytime i have removed the rear wheel to work on something else)
barry m
2007-07-14 13:49:06 UTC
It depends on how you ride the bike. Do you ride it back and fourth to work or just cruising around? Are you out doing burnouts and clutch poping wheelies? Are you street racing? these are things you left out. All of this is in great factors for us to help you in your question(no disrespect). we are all human give us some more info to help you better.


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